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Post by Pete Yurkowski on May 19, 2013 19:13:59 GMT -5
First, I want to thanks everyone for playing this game hard. You can point at 90% of this cast and say: This person played the game. We had our own plans and our own agenda, and that's what made of this game a great one that I will always remember. Whether I lose or win, this game definitely has a room in my list of favorite games I've ever played.
I lied, I schemed, I backstabbed, I plotted. Yes... I did all of that crap. I played the bad boy because that's how I love to play the game. While Gina has played a passive game, I decided to play an aggressive one. I never threw challenges, I never sat back and waited for doors to open. That game would never have worked for me. Rather than play like a pussy, I MADE the moves happen. In the exception of the Rafe vote, I directly had a hand in voting all of you out. That's blood on my hands, but at the end of the day, I'm proud of my work. I started with almost nothing but a deal with Rafe and Gina, so to get where I am, I had to work on it, I had to analyse the game, know who's with who, who would tell what to who, who would vote who, how do I take control of this thing.
Coming into the merge, when I looked at the rest of the people in the tribe, that looked intimidating... They were all friendly friendly with each other, plenty of people linked to each other, you say one name, they could repeat it to another, who would repeat to another and whoever's the mastermind would go and cut your throat. I was conscious of that, but I wanted to destroy that. There were no more swaps to switch things up, so I had to get out of that loop I was in. I had room to hide, but not for too long, something had to be done before I get squeezed in the outs.
For me, the real and hard game began when we were teams. I did not stick to Rob after Rafe was gone. I did not "jump ship" and "threw the alliance of six with the girls to get with Stephanie and Rob", like I told Gina. I was already with them way before that. I actually cemented a strong bond with Rob the minute the votes against him were revealed. Him and I talked, and shared almost everything about the game: where people stood, the crystals we had, how we could destroy the spiderweb of people that was in place, everything. I actually told him things I would have never told Rafe or Gina. I think that conversation with him that night was the key to what made of this game a real bloodbath.
The order in which people went home has NOTHING to do with challenge performance. at all... Get that out of your mind now. The order of elimination was purely strategic and solely to my own benefit. I had a strong influence in each decision that we made, and that's because I knew exactly where I was going: I wanted to bring my strongest bonds: Rob, Morgan and Gina, as far as I possibly could and squeeze them there.
But to get them there, I had to take out a massive amount of people, and that's where the mind game came in. I eliminated people in the right order, at the right moment, to make sure that people would just not know my intentions at all. And if they do realize my intentions, then let them realize when it's too late. Let's just take for example Natalie. The day me and Rob made a chat to "make fun of her", to me, there was nothing personal in this. And that's why it happened only once and that I haven't been mean to her again after that. It actually was because she told Rob that I had Gina and Morgan in my pocket and that I could definitely use them to get him out. Knowing it had a partial truth, I immediately suggested to Rob we need to call her out on that. They banged heads, and rather than work together, Natalie went home and my plans were no longer in danger.
Nobody here had a reason to trust me. I was a fierce competitor in challenges, I was in one of the best strategic positions, and nobody took me down. Why? Because my closer allies trusted me with their life, and the rest of the people trusted me until they would realize but it was too late. I have known how to make them feel safe. And the same can be said about Gina. How many things did I just NOT tell her? How many times did I burn her? The day she asked me to let Stephanie go so she would flip on the girls to work with me, Rob and Boo, what did I do? I completely threw her under the bus and made an idol get played on Stephanie. Despite all of that, she played with me, she played with fire. You've seen it happen, Rob and Morgan both went home, not expecting that from me at all. Why didn't that just go through her head that I could of done the same to her? Because she believes her under the radar strategy was solid? Please, there is one more thing I haven't told Gina, and it's that I know who she is outside this game. I've known her for many years, she is a beast in challenges. So she didn't really play me with her failures... I knew how to keep her in cage, how to make sure that her own decisions would never hurt my game.
I am impatient to answer your jury questions, whether they will be questions or just grilling me. I can't wait to tell you exactly what went down during each elimination, why you went home, how you went home. Just the Corinne vote for example, Gina says it's because of challenges, but to me it was not. It was completely something else. There was a lot more to it that she just couldn't explain because she just didn't participate to the strategy that happened in the shadows. I do have something to say about EACH one of you, and it does include Kat, yes. There is A LOT I could of said but I just didn't because my opening statement would of been a long ass one. I'm sure more secrets will come out from me. *Winks.* Each one of you brought something, you made this experience fun, and I seriously hope that you at least consider rewarding me with the title of Sole Survivor, because I worked very hard to get where I am.
And Gina, I would like to thank you for working besides me during the game. I have chosen to go to the end with you, that's all nice and everything, but now this is me or you. It is a final duel, and I think swords will come out fast. Good Luck!
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Post by Gina Crews on May 19, 2013 20:40:19 GMT -5
On a single post you not only became an ass, but a liar too. Sooo much bullshit in that post it's sad. <3 You didn't do NEARLY as much as you seem to think you did. If you think otherwise, you're either very egotistical...or very naive. Really? You think you were a "bad boy"? No sweety. You were about as "bad" as a teenage boy at Comicon. If THAT is how you play aggressive, then please let's play together again. At your apparent strongest, you weren't ever considered a threat until the F5. With mine? I was targeted like 5 times throughout the entire game. And sorry, but in a game where the big threats are being voted out...how in any way is it smart to try and BECOME one of those targets? It's not. It's sloppy. I played a SMART game, not a pussy one...and that blood on your hands you're so proud of? Yeah, it's on mine too. With the exception of Rafe & Steph, I sent them all home too. Also, the only time you ever held control was @f3. No idea WTF you're talking about. You never told me such a thing... o.O ...nor do I know what "ship" you're referring to. Who are you quoting exactly? You & Rob being butt buddies is no secret and you didn't have as much power as you seem to think you did with your "web". lol What does the order of people's elimination have to do with anything? It's not in the order that matters. It's how & why. And to sit there and say it was SOLELY your benefit is to sit there and say everyone else in this game had no say or impact. That's just arrogant. Fact is, the only people YOU are primarily responsible for being on Jury are Steph and MAYBE Brenda, if I give you credit for jumping to a conclusion based on nothing more than me asking you a question. You lucked into that vote. What influence did you have on the rest? Corinne, I'll admit I don't know how much influence you had there. All I know is Rafe asked me if I'd be game and I was like FUCK YEAH. Rafe? No. Kat? No, that was ME. Boo? No, again that was ME. Natalie? Not really. She was just an automatic vote we were ALL responsible for. Rob? No, that's ME and MORGAN. Morgan? Nah, that's mostly Morgan's own fault. From the looks there...I had way more impact than you. So get off your high horse. -.- What you guys did that night was bullying. Plain and simple. Doesn't matter the reasoning behind it. You dragged someone in a chat room and attacked them. May have not been personal for you...but did you ever stop to think how personal it was for the person you were harassing? It had zero impact on the actual game btw. Natalie was already going home long before you guys did that. No sweety. Why? Because you just weren't a threat. Your name only came up twice. Once when I saved your ass from Brenda and again when Steph & I agreed to send Morgan home instead of forcing a tie. Seriously? That's your ammo? You had chats you didn't share with me? OMG Guess what!? Every single player here can say that exact same thing! Nobody is going to tell EVERYTHING and if you think otherwise, you're fooling yourself. Maybe if you HAD said more btw...Rafe would've survived. Number of times you burned me? Once...and I wasn't the victim; Brenda was. First, didn't you just brag about NOT being one of the people to run to Rob? Just saying! And to be more specific, I asked you of a hypothetical question and only AFTER the vote did I explain my reasoning. Don't try and claim more than there is to that. I played with you for the same reason you played with me. I knew you'd stick with me for as long as it was convenient. Not because you're this master player. I always knew you'd throw me out at the drop of the hat. If you think I was 100% with you, then you don't know me as well as you claim. I wasn't playing the UTR game for YOU. I was playing it for everyone ELSE. I already knew where I stood with you and how to work with you. You never had me in a cage and sweety...MY decisions SAVED your game. I was always strategizing and you clearly didn't see it, based on your own comments. So who's the one in the shadow? <3 No. Thank YOU. I love a good sword fight.
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Post by Pete Yurkowski on May 19, 2013 21:17:42 GMT -5
You are pretty arrogant as well. You didn't have so much impacts girl, I'm just telling you. Exactly. That's true, your vote very had a very huge impact on her going or not. However, let it be known that we had two crystals that if Boo's constant paranoia was to continue, we were going to use. We chose Kat to go before you even agree or disagree with it. You did not even decide it was Kat, all you did was choose between voting Kat or Stephanie, and I convinced to vote for Kat and made you feel safe to vote with us. We didn't feel the need of using these crystals when you started throwing Boo under the bus and saying how he was flipping. I then reassured you and told you hey, you definitely have a MUCH stronger chance with me, rob and Stephanie to go far than if you stick with the girls. And all you did was AGREE or DISAGREE. In your opening, you made it seem like YOU cemented something, I'm sorry but you did not. I reassured you that we could vote Boo next and I suggested that to you and once again, YOU did NOT bring that up, all you did was AGREE or DISAGREE with Boo going next, and that made you feel like it would be smart for you so you went on board with voting for Kat right away. And can you explain to the jury how that was you? That was something that I offered you the vote before for the next vote so that would feel safe with us. Absolutely nothing forced me to keep that promise, and if we wanted, Natalie could of just gone home instead. You did nothing to get Boo out, all you did was agree or disagree. Did we need your vote? No, I used my fire crystal, thank you. Yep, she was an automatic vote, but that doesn't erase the fact I had a hand in directly voting her out. I did not want to work with her, and I think you minimized how easily that could of been turned against you. Had Natalie won immunity, you would of been the complete idiot that would of found herself on the chopping block, look at the final five vote, that doesn't hint you a bit? ROFL, this is by far the biggest slander I've ever heard. Who was on the chopping block? Me or you? YOU. Stephanie tried to get Morgan to vote me out, she refused, she tried to get Rob to vote me out, he refused, the votes turned against you. You were totally at my mercy. You were both praying to god I would vote with you two, nothing more, you were no mastermind at this, you were actually the second possible victim. I voted Rob out because I did not want to go to the final three with both of them together and end up third. Morgan's own fault? Who made her feel safer? Me or you? You did not make her feel safer than I did. I think you minimize the impact I had on that vote. The morning of the voting day, Morgan came to me and completely threw both you and Stephanie under the bus, showing me how you were trying to subtly get her to vote me out, you also told her that Stephanie was voting for me. Then I went to you, and I'm sure you remember, because I asked you TWICE, did Stephanie tell you who she was voting? You were not telling me anything. I immediately went over to my confessional and casted my vote AGAINST YOU, and that's probably where Morgan trusted me, I probably gave her the vibe I was voting with her, which I was. i.imgur.com/jYZl4ET.pngThen me and you talked one more time. My whole objective of the conversation, was to figure out whether you were voting with Stephanie or with me. I questionned you the deepest I could, tested your reaction to my paranoia, observed your responses, and in the end I figured I felt like I didn't need to vote with Morgan anymore. You were ALSO one inche away from leaving the game, and let's face it, I beat you hands down at anything in a tie-breaker. I think you're getting on your high horses too for your information. You had no influence on who the votes were going to be, all you did was agree on who to vote for between two people on a chopping block, nothing more. Maybe? Are you kidding me? You were stupid enough to tell me who the vote was and I threw you in the fire and told Rob to play an idol on Stephanie. I did not agree with your idea of letting Stephanie go, so I made a choice over yours. When exactly did you make a choice without me that really had a big impact and actually HAPPENED?
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Post by Gina Crews on May 19, 2013 22:12:03 GMT -5
I'm not being arrogant. I'm being honest. Nothing of what I have said so far is untrue and I don't claim to have had any more impact than I actually did. I know where I contributed and where I didn't. You? Not so much. Exactly what? o.O I've already stated I was content in early merge and agreeing to RAFE asking me to vote Corinne. That's not a secret or something I deny... Doesn't matter what you had in your pockets if they stayed in your pocket. The fact is that vote was decided on MY vote. I was the deciding factor in who left and which side took the reigns for the remainder of the game. You had zero sway in me voting Kat. I decided that because of a conversation I had with Boo himself. You can stop with the "reassuring & feeling safe" bullshit. You never did that shit at any point in the game and when you tried...you failed miserably. You NEVER made me feel safe, I NEVER felt secure with you and it NEVER played a role in how things went in the game. The round Boo left, I specifically made sure to get a F4 deal out of all 3 of you before I went with the Boo vote which, yes...I pushed for. I did not just "agree" or "disagree". That's mere horseshit. You never made me that offer during Kat's vote. The first time we spoke of the vote he left you suggested it should be Natalie because she's a threat. I was even joking with her about how you were scared of her and that's why. I then told you it should be Boo because he's too dangerous, playing a flip-flip game. We didn't talk about it against until the next day when we then agreed on Boo and you said you talked to Rob about it. And what promise are you even talking about? o.O You never made me a promise the entire game. Stop lying to these people about what went down. And who cares if you used your fire crystal? You used it knowing you didn't need to. How is wasting a crystal a pro? You had as much hand of voting Natalie out as I did. As Steph did. As Rob did. You didn't do shit extra like you seem to think you did. I don't minimize anything more than it needs to be. I knew full well the position I was in and it was a risk I was willing to take. I would've worked my ass off to convince Morgan to take out Rob (which she already expressed interest with me in doing). If it cost me, then it'd cost me. I knew the risk. Thanks for showing that asshole side of you though by calling me an idiot. Still a bully, I see. Fact is, it never came to that and was not a factor of the game. If that's all you have to go on, then you should just stop. Actually, we BOTH were. Had Morgan agreed to vote you, you'd be sitting on the jury instead of her. We even talked of tying it, but mutually decided it'd be smarter to vote Morgan in case you did choose to turn on me cause we knew I'd win the challenge tie. At no point in time were either of us crying & praying to God on how you'd vote. Pull your head out of your self-righteous ass. If I'm wrong on this Steph, please correct me...but you had Morgan agreed, he'd have been gone, yes? Had I said to you, let's do the tie on Pete instead, would you? Don't much care why you voted him. Just saying it wasn't your idea. Morgan and I planned that when she flipped. You seriously need to get over yourself and this notion that you make people feel safe. She cost herself the game because she values loyalty. Had nothing to do with your bullshit promises or fake ass speeches to people. I think you minimize people. You've insulted nearly every juror in this thread so far. I know she did. She told us what she did. Not sure why this is relevant? Which again, is why Steph & I voted Morgan. We knew I'd win a challenge tie. What's the point of this? You're just speaking and circles and not saying anything new or unknown. We know how the end game went and so far you've just confirmed everything I've already said. I wasn't leaving @f4. lol And no, you would've lost a tie breaker with me. To your own admittance, I'm a challenge beast, remember? If you don't like the facts, then don't read what I have to say. Again with the bullying. Seems to be a trend of yours. What does this have to do with anything though? I said "maybe" because the only reason you knew what to do is cause of ME, not because of your own self. That was MY fault and you jumped to do what you did. So I say MAYBE because with ME, you wouldn't have been able to do what you did. That's just fact. What impact did I have? Hm. Let's see. Without me...Steph would've gone home, cause you wouldn't have known to even USE an idol and if you did use one, WHO to use it on. So Steph would've gone. I would've stuck with the girls and you guys would've dropped 1-by-1. Let's see. Without me...Nat/Kat/Boo/Morgan would've taken control of the game cause it was MY vote that forced the tie that sent Kat home. Without me...you couldn't have sent Rob home. Could have and would've jumped to save him in a heart beat if I felt I needed to and the offer WAS made to do so.
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Post by Gina Crews on May 19, 2013 22:14:35 GMT -5
I'm sure you'll respond, cause it's in your blood to do so. So just letting you know I'll be back in the morning to continue the sword fight. <3
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Post by Pete Yurkowski on May 19, 2013 22:38:30 GMT -5
Had she, yeah, but she did not.
Pussyness.
I know that Stephanie was a hundred percent on board to vote me out if you told her so. I don't need a confirmation from her, Morgan sent me the WHOLE conversation with Stephanie where she was being called stupid by Stephanie for not voting me and how she was totally confident that she had your vote in your pocket.
Had you voted against me, you probably would have failed my questions and conversation with me. It is in the human nature to leave clues by the way we speak, and I would of just flop back to whoever was the most guaranteed to vote with me.
How can you know you would of won in the tie break against Morgan? You always sucked more than she did. Even when you actually *tried* the final immunity, you failed miserably and blamed sickness.
I did say you were a challenge beast, but I'm def. a better beast than you are. I'm just saying.
And if you love facts so much, just look at this, NO WHERE you pushed for Boo:
Pete 8:01 pm Secret.... We all doubt Boo That was not even a shocker what you just told me
Gina 8:02 pm Yeah but Rob is ALWAYS lying to me and has flat out said to me he doesn't trust me.
Pete 8:02 pm Because of last vote, isn't it? This is so ridiculous
Gina 8:04 pm So I've no idea what to do, cause Steph & Rob clearly don't have a place for me in this game. Neither do any of the girls or Boo. So right now my only honest loyalty is to you...despite what happened last vote.
Pete 8:04 pm But I do. And I trust Rob and Steph enough to get you F4
Gina 8:04 pm Rob spent an hour yesterday trying to convince me he didn't have any deals and how he didn't want to make one with me. -.-
Pete 8:04 pm Thats what he doesnt want, but I want that. But if we vote Steph, its like screwed over Boo is with Nat and Morgan and they will have kat
Gina 8:05 pm I'm trying to find out if they have any crystals. Don't repeat ANY of this. They all talk too much.
Pete 8:05 pm I am NOT Im only talking to Rob atm and im telling him to be nice to Gina because if Boo flips we might need her. I didnt say anything and he already doubt Boo anyways he keeps complaining about him
Pete 8:08 pm Anything??
Gina 8:08 pm They have no crystals to use.
Pete 8:09 pm Yea thats what I thought Right now I would love to vote Boo but the prob is steph already voted kat........
Gina 8:10 pm So if Kat goes...then what? F7...with 4 of us + 1 crystal, yes?
Pete 8:10 pm F7 4 of us one crystal yes but you have crystals too?
Gina 8:10 pm I have 2, but neither are active.
Pete 8:10 pm I can ask Rob to activate yours! If you vote with him theres no doubt he would So what do you think is best right now? We vote Kat and Boo next? Or steph out but then im in truoble
Gina 8:11 pm Any chance you could get him to agree to a F4 deal of us 4?
Pete 8:11 pm We can easily make F4 As soon as they realize boo flop, you will look gold to them
Gina 8:12 pm I don't want to do this then him let Boo back into the fold for me to get 5th.
Pete 8:12 pm Nooo way! If they do this im voting aganist it I will want Boo out immediately after kat
Pete 8:13 pm What do you trust most right now?
Gina 8:14 pm Despite the moment we shant speak of...you're still the person I trust most. So I think we should vote Kat.
Pete 8:14 pm And you can still trust me!!! We can easily make F4
Gina 8:15 pm Then next enforce this F4.
Pete 8:15 pm Yess after they realize what happens Then ill tell them hey look, this is gina's font!
Pete 8:15 pm And we make this F4 happen
Gina 8:15 pm I am 100% down with voting Boo next. I think it'd be smart to target him before he gets back in Rob or Steph's good graces.
Pete 8:15 pm Screw Boo, hes with Nat and Morgan Yesss Exactly we need him to take him out while hated
What I meant by I didn't have to keep that promise is that even though I told you I wanted Boo out after Kat, nothing forced me to really go that way...
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Post by Amanda Kimmel on May 19, 2013 22:57:11 GMT -5
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Post by Pete Yurkowski on May 20, 2013 0:13:54 GMT -5
Oh, forgot...
Without me...Steph would've gone home, cause you wouldn't have known to even USE an idol and if you did use one, WHO to use it on. So Steph would've gone.
The original idea was to play three water crystals, but instead, I wanted Rob to use his idol, and we played two water crystals to, at worse, create a tie, look back at that tribal. I didn't need your information.
I would've stuck with the girls and you guys would've dropped 1-by-1. Let's see. Without me...Nat/Kat/Boo/Morgan would've taken control of the game cause it was MY vote that forced the tie that sent Kat home.
Did you calculate Morgan and our two crystals? She was gunning for Natalie after that. And to be honest, I don't believe we *really* would of been taken down one at a time. The Stephanie vote would have just worked, she would of went, but trust me that the game was far from over had that happened. And you probably would have ended up seeing your torch snuffed down the road.
Without me...you couldn't have sent Rob home. Could have and would've jumped to save him in a heart beat if I felt I needed to and the offer WAS made to do so.
Without me, a third vote and you were gone...
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Post by Gina Crews on May 20, 2013 3:12:11 GMT -5
So you agree with me finally. Thanks. Still bullying. Very disappointed. For the record, no. It's called playing SMART. We've already acknowledged this. Why are you repeating yourself to just confirm what I've already said? This just proves you don't know me as well as you think you do sweety. I don't necessarily KNOW, as one can not know for certainty, however I'm very confident in the fact I could have won. You forget that I sucked on PURPOSE. The only time I ever *tried* was pre-merge, and I dominated over Morgan at that stage. And I don't "blame" sickness for losing the final challenge btw. I said it cost me valuable time I could've used for multiple attempts. My own failure is my own failure in that challenge. Please pay attention. Keep thinking it sweety. Not sure what it has to do with anything anyway. lol Is that chat an attempt of you trying to claim sole credit for Boo's exit or something? A chat that shows us BOTH hinting and subtly pushing for Boo? lol I haven't claimed to be the SOLE reason Boo is gone; only a factor. If you'd actually pay attention, I said I pushed for him to go, not that I was solely responsible. You're the only one that seems to use terms like "solely". And as you just proved in that chat...I did. That's only part of our chats, but it's enough to show that I did indeed push for Boo. If you think all "pushing" is, is a direct "LET'S DO THIS, ROAR" then you don't understand the subtlties of this game as well as you seem to think you do. Notice how I specifically lead you to my concerns with Boo and ensured a mention of our F4 for assurance AND pressed more for why Boo should go? Yeah. Had the same conversation with both Steph & Rob at various points and I believe twice with Steph (I believe it was her).
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Post by Gina Crews on May 20, 2013 3:19:31 GMT -5
I know what the original idea was and like you said....all you would've done is create a tie IF he would've used those crystals and used them properly. If you knew anything about Brenda you'd know she's a challenge beast and I've every confidence she'd beat Steph in a tie (no offense to Steph). You weren't the only player with crystals sweety. Besides that...crystals stopped being effective Natalie White's TC I believe? So it would've bought you only 1 round. You would've then been picked off as I said. Keep trying to diminish me through the usage of probability if you like. I'll stick to reality. Which I've not denied. Unlike you, I can acknowledge that I don't have control at all times. I know when and where I was vulnerable and can acknowledge that other people actually played this game and had power too. You asked what I did. I told you. Get over it.
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Post by Pete Yurkowski on May 20, 2013 10:13:02 GMT -5
I haven't claimed to be the SOLE reason Boo is gone; only a factor.
Let me repeat your exact words: Boo? No, again that was ME.
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Post by Gina Crews on May 20, 2013 11:43:48 GMT -5
I haven't claimed to be the SOLE reason Boo is gone; only a factor.Let me repeat your exact words: Boo? No, again that was ME. And? At no point did I say SOLE person. You can still claim credit for something and acknowledge you couldn't have done it alone. I do feel primarily responsible for Boo's exit because of my decision not to side with him and instead push for him to go. Hence the ME part. I feel responsible for that. However, I've also acknowledged the fact I could not and did not do that alone. If this is all you have, then you fail at sword fighting.
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