Post by Boo Bernis on May 20, 2013 22:11:43 GMT -5
(Disclaimer: I want complete brutal/honest answers. No sugar coating (Pete) and no BS. If I repeat a question, just direct me to the thread you answered it in so we don't waste both of our times.)
Hey guys!
I want to start by saying that after I left, I left pretty bitter like usual. I didn't confront anyone about it, I just let it go and whoever would join me in the Jury hut would see what I had to say and could discuss things with me there. I was upset with who was left in the game and who could potentially win. But as I sit here now, I think that there probably couldn't have been a better end to it all seeing how things were going. I honestly don't think I would have wanted to see anyone in the final 2 other than myself and Natalie but everyone is deserving in their own way.
Anyways, I've been known to give rather long and bitter speeches, but this won't be one I don't think. But I would like to address each of you individually and together.
Just so you know, these comments about my game play aren't news to me. I didn't really come in with the intention to play differently, but more learn how to use those weaknesses and make them strengths. Unfortunately, I came into this game and pretty soon into it found out a close friend was actually playing with me - Natalie. From that point I vowed a final 2 and I wasn't going to break it though at times I wanted to. So, as it came down to it all, most of what I spread around was purposeful in order to try and help me and her get farther together. I mean, I'm not going to use that as a scapegoat to having a big mouth because I know I have one and there are times I did spread too much or put too much faith in people like normal, but it was mostly all for me and Nat.
The thing I didn't realize is most of what I told in confidence, friend or not, still would be used by Nat to her benefit and got me in hot waters a lot more than I wanted to. Luckily I made good enough bonds that they showed enough grace in order to keep me in good graces when I "messed up".
Overall, none of what you guys have said about me makes me upset or is news and I thank you for the honesty because I'm still trying to work on what game play works for me and the truthful comments are beneficial to that.
I attribute why I was voted out almost completely on myself. I made some strange moves for the most part and when I thought I found my opening, I had to put trust in people I didn't necessarily want to in order to make something happen and it obviously didn't work out. I didn't know my exact placement so I tried to ensure my spot in the final 3. I was getting rather complacent and to be honest, I wanted to at least go out trying something rather than just effortlessly making my way to the final 5/4. But all that is hindsight and I made my move based on a friendship, not what was best for me. Friends are more to me than the game itself and although I thought I was in a great position, I didn't want to leave a friend in the dust if I could help it. The game is 10x more fun, yet 100x more challenging to play alongside a friend, but if you can make the end, it's worth it! Anyways, enough of that.
Between the two of you, I don't think one of you had a better social game than the other - I think they both sucked and you both kicked in socially about the same time which was much later than the rest. Challenge-wise Pete overshadowed you, Gina, but I don't care much about challenge performances. They mean nothing to me and I don't try in challenges I don't feel I need to win anyways. Strategically, I saw most of Pete's game but not yours, Gina. Hopefully my questions can get me more insight so I can make a better decision.
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Gina:
Well I have to say, coming into this game I did not like you one bit. You and I have talked about the whole karma thing and how I thought you hated me and that's all cleared so I won't proceed with it. I will stand here and say that I still actually feel the same way.
When I was voted out, you left a pretty bitter taste in my mouth to be honest. I see a lot of the Jurors talking about how you've got this game in the bag over Pete and how you've played such a great social game and stuff. I never saw it.
You and I have had one or 2 decent conversations this game and both times, I was the last to say anything and the conversations ended rather abruptly. The last of those conversations being where we struck a deal and then you proceeded to switch your vote basically putting the nail in my coffin after just giving me your word to go to the end with me.
I would love to stand here and say that I am pleased at the things you've said about me, but you've given me no indication that you even know who I am or anything about my character or personality. I can't say I know anything about you either.
So here's something I want from you:
1. Tell me all about yourself. I want to know who the real Gina is because I don't have a good grasp on that.
2. What do you know about me? What can you tell about my personality or my character from what you have seen of me? (be honest about this and as brutal as you need to be.)
3. I want to know 3 things you've learned about each Juror that are not game related or personality related. I want to know facts about people's lives. I just want to see how on the ball you were socially.
4. How does your strategical game play overshadow everyone on the Jury and Pete, if at all? Please briefly explain these.
5. You said this.
I think it was a typo. I was just wondering if you could reiterate that for me because I want to know what you meant. =P
6. My biggest question is this:
The round that it tied, were you really scared of crystals and flipped your vote for that reason to force the tie on Kat, or were you aware that I was flipping and did that to make sure I landed on the wrong side of things from that point forward?
Thanks, Gina. Sorry for all the questions, but I know nothing of you or your game. =P
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Pete:
I can't say I'm not surprised with what happened. I would like to say though I was not avoiding you after I flipped my vote, I was seriously just busy that day and talked to no one. =P But I was already informed you were turning people on me instantly that I knew it wouldn't have mattered. That was very quick to start throwing me around so I assumed you had been wanting it for a while.
I know my biggest mistake was telling Gina what you said about her and I'm not sure why I did it. It was definitely my big mouth there that got me. =P I take accountability for every reason I was voted out.
I don't have much to say. I hope you know the reason I did flip was partly for my gain, but also because that same night I asked Rob about you and where you stood and it sounded to me as if he was going to take you to 5 and then cut you. Without blatantly outing him, I was trying to flip things up to advance you and I a little more and possibly give you and I that chance against Rob in final 3 without Steph. But you didn't need it because you're sitting there.
I want to know a few things:
1. Where was I in your pecking order? Had I not flipped and at left without that tie that round, tell me your preferred boot order from that point on.
2. I'm sick of your sugar coating and everything you say having some extra connotation or some simple gestured joke behind it. I want you to tell me why you are sitting there and each Juror is sitting over here and sell it. I want their biggest flaws or something they did that got them on the Jury rather than the final chair and I don't want ANY jokes or subtle hints of humor. Just tell it how it is.
3. NOW I want you to be humble as all hell. I want you to say why every Juror deserves to be sitting where you are INSTEAD of you. Be more innovative. Like not just the same answer for everyone. Pick out something from someone else's game that they did better than you and just sell it to me that they should be sitting where you are instead.
Thanks, Pete. I thought you were very arrogant and egotistical most of the season, but I can't say I didn't enjoy playing by your side because I sure did. You were, in all of that, probably the most REAL person for me. I never sensed any fake behavior from you and however genuine that may have actually been, I appreciated it. I think you and I are similar in that regard is that we don't really hide a ton. You were better at masking it than I was, but most people are.
[/color]Hey guys!
I want to start by saying that after I left, I left pretty bitter like usual. I didn't confront anyone about it, I just let it go and whoever would join me in the Jury hut would see what I had to say and could discuss things with me there. I was upset with who was left in the game and who could potentially win. But as I sit here now, I think that there probably couldn't have been a better end to it all seeing how things were going. I honestly don't think I would have wanted to see anyone in the final 2 other than myself and Natalie but everyone is deserving in their own way.
Anyways, I've been known to give rather long and bitter speeches, but this won't be one I don't think. But I would like to address each of you individually and together.
Just so you know, these comments about my game play aren't news to me. I didn't really come in with the intention to play differently, but more learn how to use those weaknesses and make them strengths. Unfortunately, I came into this game and pretty soon into it found out a close friend was actually playing with me - Natalie. From that point I vowed a final 2 and I wasn't going to break it though at times I wanted to. So, as it came down to it all, most of what I spread around was purposeful in order to try and help me and her get farther together. I mean, I'm not going to use that as a scapegoat to having a big mouth because I know I have one and there are times I did spread too much or put too much faith in people like normal, but it was mostly all for me and Nat.
The thing I didn't realize is most of what I told in confidence, friend or not, still would be used by Nat to her benefit and got me in hot waters a lot more than I wanted to. Luckily I made good enough bonds that they showed enough grace in order to keep me in good graces when I "messed up".
Overall, none of what you guys have said about me makes me upset or is news and I thank you for the honesty because I'm still trying to work on what game play works for me and the truthful comments are beneficial to that.
I attribute why I was voted out almost completely on myself. I made some strange moves for the most part and when I thought I found my opening, I had to put trust in people I didn't necessarily want to in order to make something happen and it obviously didn't work out. I didn't know my exact placement so I tried to ensure my spot in the final 3. I was getting rather complacent and to be honest, I wanted to at least go out trying something rather than just effortlessly making my way to the final 5/4. But all that is hindsight and I made my move based on a friendship, not what was best for me. Friends are more to me than the game itself and although I thought I was in a great position, I didn't want to leave a friend in the dust if I could help it. The game is 10x more fun, yet 100x more challenging to play alongside a friend, but if you can make the end, it's worth it! Anyways, enough of that.
Between the two of you, I don't think one of you had a better social game than the other - I think they both sucked and you both kicked in socially about the same time which was much later than the rest. Challenge-wise Pete overshadowed you, Gina, but I don't care much about challenge performances. They mean nothing to me and I don't try in challenges I don't feel I need to win anyways. Strategically, I saw most of Pete's game but not yours, Gina. Hopefully my questions can get me more insight so I can make a better decision.
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Gina:
Well I have to say, coming into this game I did not like you one bit. You and I have talked about the whole karma thing and how I thought you hated me and that's all cleared so I won't proceed with it. I will stand here and say that I still actually feel the same way.
When I was voted out, you left a pretty bitter taste in my mouth to be honest. I see a lot of the Jurors talking about how you've got this game in the bag over Pete and how you've played such a great social game and stuff. I never saw it.
You and I have had one or 2 decent conversations this game and both times, I was the last to say anything and the conversations ended rather abruptly. The last of those conversations being where we struck a deal and then you proceeded to switch your vote basically putting the nail in my coffin after just giving me your word to go to the end with me.
I would love to stand here and say that I am pleased at the things you've said about me, but you've given me no indication that you even know who I am or anything about my character or personality. I can't say I know anything about you either.
So here's something I want from you:
1. Tell me all about yourself. I want to know who the real Gina is because I don't have a good grasp on that.
2. What do you know about me? What can you tell about my personality or my character from what you have seen of me? (be honest about this and as brutal as you need to be.)
3. I want to know 3 things you've learned about each Juror that are not game related or personality related. I want to know facts about people's lives. I just want to see how on the ball you were socially.
4. How does your strategical game play overshadow everyone on the Jury and Pete, if at all? Please briefly explain these.
5. You said this.
I was playing a lay-it-low kind of game and sorry Boo, but you a lot of you.
I think it was a typo. I was just wondering if you could reiterate that for me because I want to know what you meant. =P
6. My biggest question is this:
The round that it tied, were you really scared of crystals and flipped your vote for that reason to force the tie on Kat, or were you aware that I was flipping and did that to make sure I landed on the wrong side of things from that point forward?
Thanks, Gina. Sorry for all the questions, but I know nothing of you or your game. =P
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Pete:
I can't say I'm not surprised with what happened. I would like to say though I was not avoiding you after I flipped my vote, I was seriously just busy that day and talked to no one. =P But I was already informed you were turning people on me instantly that I knew it wouldn't have mattered. That was very quick to start throwing me around so I assumed you had been wanting it for a while.
I know my biggest mistake was telling Gina what you said about her and I'm not sure why I did it. It was definitely my big mouth there that got me. =P I take accountability for every reason I was voted out.
I don't have much to say. I hope you know the reason I did flip was partly for my gain, but also because that same night I asked Rob about you and where you stood and it sounded to me as if he was going to take you to 5 and then cut you. Without blatantly outing him, I was trying to flip things up to advance you and I a little more and possibly give you and I that chance against Rob in final 3 without Steph. But you didn't need it because you're sitting there.
I want to know a few things:
1. Where was I in your pecking order? Had I not flipped and at left without that tie that round, tell me your preferred boot order from that point on.
2. I'm sick of your sugar coating and everything you say having some extra connotation or some simple gestured joke behind it. I want you to tell me why you are sitting there and each Juror is sitting over here and sell it. I want their biggest flaws or something they did that got them on the Jury rather than the final chair and I don't want ANY jokes or subtle hints of humor. Just tell it how it is.
3. NOW I want you to be humble as all hell. I want you to say why every Juror deserves to be sitting where you are INSTEAD of you. Be more innovative. Like not just the same answer for everyone. Pick out something from someone else's game that they did better than you and just sell it to me that they should be sitting where you are instead.
Thanks, Pete. I thought you were very arrogant and egotistical most of the season, but I can't say I didn't enjoy playing by your side because I sure did. You were, in all of that, probably the most REAL person for me. I never sensed any fake behavior from you and however genuine that may have actually been, I appreciated it. I think you and I are similar in that regard is that we don't really hide a ton. You were better at masking it than I was, but most people are.
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Alright, now both of you:
This is a question I always ask:
1. Relate each Juror and yourselves to a chess piece and explain why.
2. What do YOU think about the crystal twist? Did you like it? Do you think it affected the game too much in a bad way?
3. I am pretty narcissistic, so I just want to know what is something about me you enjoyed? I feel like walking away, bridges are burned with both of you and I would at least like to know something you enjoyed about me.
4. On that same note, what is something you have learned from me? Is there anything about my personality or game play that you walked away with in a better light? If not, that's fine.
Thanks guys! This is long, I'm sure...I don't know since I haven't posted it yet, but I'm thanking you in advance for taking the time to read and answer.
It's been a pleasure playing. I lost sight somewhere in the middle and didn't play this game flawlessly or make all the right choices, but I walk away proud with what I've done here no matter how feckless I may have come across or regardless of what I walk away with, if anything, in this game. I hope that you both feel the same way. =)
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